{"id":99,"date":"2013-01-29T21:14:30","date_gmt":"2013-01-30T03:14:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.petitefreespirit.com\/2013\/01\/when-reason-religion-collide\/"},"modified":"2020-06-10T19:47:08","modified_gmt":"2020-06-11T00:47:08","slug":"when-reason-religion-collide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.petitefreespirit.com\/index.php\/2013\/01\/29\/when-reason-religion-collide\/","title":{"rendered":"When Reason &#038; Religion Collide"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P align=justify><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14px\" face=arial><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT>Recently someone told me that they were God-fearing and wanted to get married in front of God.&nbsp; To clarify what I was hearing, I asked if what they meant to say was that they wanted\/preferred to get married in a church.&nbsp; After all, if they believed in an omniscient, omnipresent God, anywhere they married, technically, would be in front of God&#8230;<br \/>\n<P align=justify><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14px\" face=arial><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT>My early years were spent two doors down from a church and at a relatively early age, I attempted to combine reason with religion.&nbsp; My mother told me that God could see everything that I did.&nbsp; In my mind, he could see everything happening outside (there were no obstructions to his vision from above).&nbsp; However, I gave him the same limitations as humans when I decided he could not see through the roof.&nbsp; Thus, whenever I did something bad, I did it in the house using the roof as my cover (I was a merciless wall-writer).&nbsp; <br \/>\n<P align=justify><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14px\" face=arial><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT>Reasoning didn&#8217;t just &#8220;happen&#8221; to spring forth from out of nowhere though.&nbsp; My mother and grandfather both were heavy Bible debaters amongst themselves or with people who would come over from time to time in order to discuss\/debate the Bible.&nbsp; I even remember my mother being a champion in my eyes once when she debated a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness who came to the door with the ubiquitous Watchtower Magazine.&nbsp; \n<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>\nJW: Good afternoon, m&#8217;am.&nbsp; I&#8217;d like to talk to you today about Jehovah if you have time.<\/p>\n<p>Mother: Certainly, come in.<\/p>\n<p>JW: I&#8217;d first like to give you this copy of The Watchtower and discuss (current cover&#8217;s topic).<\/p>\n<p>Mother: I have no problems discussing (current cover&#8217;s topic) however, I will need you to make your case from this (big Bible sitting in the middle of the coffee table).<\/p>\n<p>JW: Well, m&#8217;am, Jehovah says blah, blah, blah (still reading from Watchtower) and it says right here that&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Mother: I understand you have your magazine, however, I read from this (big Bible sitting in the middle of the coffee table).&nbsp; Unless or until you can point to me where it says the same thing in THIS book, I will not be able to agree with what you are saying.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Thank you so much for your time m&#8217;am.&nbsp; Do you mind if I come back?<\/p>\n<p>Mother: No problem.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>\n<P align=justify><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14px\" face=arial><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT>Needless to say, I don&#8217;t think that person or any others came back after that episode.<br \/>\n<P align=justify><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14px\" face=arial><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT><FONT style=\"FONT-SIZE: 85%\"><\/FONT>Because there was so much debate going on while I was growing up, I do not debate religion with people.&nbsp; It&#8217;s like having a question that to the people answering, the answer is right to one person if he says yes and the answer is right to the other person if he says no.&nbsp; Knowing that, I tend to let religion happen around me.&nbsp; Ever so often, if I meet someone of an unfamiliar religion, I may ask questions.&nbsp; However, my typical approach is to let each person be.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve personally known people who come from Jewish, Muslim and Hindu backgrounds, learned about people who are Sikh and have read the names of countless other religions in passing (not sure I&#8217;ll ever meet a Zoroastrian or not).&nbsp; At times when I am with others from differing religious backgrounds, we just are.&nbsp; No debates.<br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently someone told me that they were God-fearing and wanted to get married in front of God.&nbsp; To clarify what I was hearing, I asked if what they meant to say was that they wanted\/preferred to get married in a church.&nbsp; After all, if they believed in an omniscient, omnipresent God, anywhere they married, technically, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.petitefreespirit.com\/index.php\/2013\/01\/29\/when-reason-religion-collide\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">When Reason &#038; Religion Collide<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-99","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-musings"],"uagb_featured_image_src":{"full":false,"thumbnail":false,"medium":false,"medium_large":false,"large":false,"1536x1536":false,"2048x2048":false,"post-thumbnail":false},"uagb_author_info":{"display_name":"pfspirit","author_link":"https:\/\/www.petitefreespirit.com\/index.php\/author\/pfspirit\/"},"uagb_comment_info":0,"uagb_excerpt":"Recently someone told me that they were God-fearing and wanted to get married in front of God.&nbsp; 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